On Keller, at least for this episode, I'm going to have to disagree. I think she acted just like any one of Rodney's friends would I think would, including John. She teased Rodney, tried to reel him in from an embarrassing social situation (and I think it was for his sake, not hers). The more I think about it, the more I see that scene where Rodney's standing up in front of the crowd as her trying to shush him, possibly for Stargate secrecy reasons, but also because she can see it's not going to work. It never really come across to me as nagging or "trying to change Rodney", it's one thing to tell someone to try to act humble, to try and reign in their bad behavior in public. His team does to him all the time, so I really don't see her behavior as the problem.
Past that she keeps stating how much she finds the subject deathly dull. Physics, y'know, Rodney's greatest passion, holds not a single lick of interest for her.
I don't know... I find that a little unfair. Nobody loves physics as much as Rodney, with the possible exception of Sam, Zelenka, and Bill Nye the Science Guy.
Of course she'd be bored there, Ronon/Teyla/John/Woolsey/Carson/Amelia/Torren/Lorne/Elizabeth would be bored too. (Todd wouldn't be bored, but that's because Todd would be at a physicist buffet. The smart ones always taste better.) Any one of them would find the physics boring, they would needle Rodney about it, because if the situation were reversed, Rodney would probably be just as snarky to them at a Satedan Art Lesson/Athosian Harvest Festival/Surfing Contest/Paper Pusher Secret Society Meeting/Medical Conference/Gate Techs Anonymous/Pre-School/Gun Show/Linguistics Lecture.
Except here, no doubts, not even a single raised eye-brow that she's possibly young enough to be his daughter...)
You know, maybe that's the problem here. It's not that she is so younger, it's that it's just ignored, glossed over so they don't have to worry about addressing it (and here is where I'm going to sound like I hate the pairing/Keller, when that's note really the case):
It seems to me that they've taken a lot of shortcuts in this relationship, and sometimes decisions with Keller's character, and I think it's possibly because they're hypersensitive to criticism of her? A lot of fans had dismissed her before she even showed up, in places/ways that JM and company were sure to see. I can understand the knee jerk reaction that we're all insane for judging something we haven't seen. Fans rarely come across as the most rational of people
But it almost feels... I swear, and this is more with the pairing, it feels like they're ignoring addressing any potential pitfalls, as if they're afraid that they address them the fans will latch on and use that as support for their dislike of it. And of course, some would. That's the nature of fanning. But it's frustrating to me, as someone who actually saw potential back at the end of season four for a romantic relationship between these characters to be treated so... what is the word I'm looking for here? I don't know. I gagged a tiny bit at the callback, but understood that was my issue. A lot of people enjoyed it. I know why I disliked it for numerous reasons, but had grudgingly resigned myself to the fact that it was canon. (Just like sadly, somehow "Irresponsible", and "Travelers", and "Whispers" is canon.)
But somewhere, for me, it crossed the line from sappy to squirm-inducing, and I think it was near the very end of the airplane scene. Someone once mentioned to me that reading the Twilight books felt like reading someone's sexual fantasies -- and that's how the end of that scene felt to me. I'm afraid (really afraid) that I'm going to have to watch it again, because now I'm morbidly curious if it was the suggestion of sex so soon that bothered me, or the way they suggested it that bothered me.
(It was the Mile High Club part that really tipped me over into rant mode. I did enjoy most of the episode, even if I haven't really squeed about it yet.)
Part One... (I got long winded.)
On Keller, at least for this episode, I'm going to have to disagree. I think she acted just like any one of Rodney's friends would I think would, including John. She teased Rodney, tried to reel him in from an embarrassing social situation (and I think it was for his sake, not hers). The more I think about it, the more I see that scene where Rodney's standing up in front of the crowd as her trying to shush him, possibly for Stargate secrecy reasons, but also because she can see it's not going to work. It never really come across to me as nagging or "trying to change Rodney", it's one thing to tell someone to try to act humble, to try and reign in their bad behavior in public. His team does to him all the time, so I really don't see her behavior as the problem.
Past that she keeps stating how much she finds the subject deathly dull. Physics, y'know, Rodney's greatest passion, holds not a single lick of interest for her.
I don't know... I find that a little unfair. Nobody loves physics as much as Rodney, with the possible exception of Sam, Zelenka, and Bill Nye the Science Guy.
Of course she'd be bored there, Ronon/Teyla/John/Woolsey/Carson/Amelia/Torren/Lorne/Elizabeth would be bored too. (Todd wouldn't be bored, but that's because Todd would be at a physicist buffet. The smart ones always taste better.) Any one of them would find the physics boring, they would needle Rodney about it, because if the situation were reversed, Rodney would probably be just as snarky to them at a Satedan Art Lesson/Athosian Harvest Festival/Surfing Contest/Paper Pusher Secret Society Meeting/Medical Conference/Gate Techs Anonymous/Pre-School/Gun Show/Linguistics Lecture.
Except here, no doubts, not even a single raised eye-brow that she's possibly young enough to be his daughter...)
You know, maybe that's the problem here. It's not that she is so younger, it's that it's just ignored, glossed over so they don't have to worry about addressing it (and here is where I'm going to sound like I hate the pairing/Keller, when that's note really the case):
It seems to me that they've taken a lot of shortcuts in this relationship, and sometimes decisions with Keller's character, and I think it's possibly because they're hypersensitive to criticism of her? A lot of fans had dismissed her before she even showed up, in places/ways that JM and company were sure to see. I can understand the knee jerk reaction that we're all insane for judging something we haven't seen. Fans rarely come across as the most rational of people
But it almost feels... I swear, and this is more with the pairing, it feels like they're ignoring addressing any potential pitfalls, as if they're afraid that they address them the fans will latch on and use that as support for their dislike of it. And of course, some would. That's the nature of fanning. But it's frustrating to me, as someone who actually saw potential back at the end of season four for a romantic relationship between these characters to be treated so... what is the word I'm looking for here? I don't know. I gagged a tiny bit at the callback, but understood that was my issue. A lot of people enjoyed it. I know why I disliked it for numerous reasons, but had grudgingly resigned myself to the fact that it was canon. (Just like sadly, somehow "Irresponsible", and "Travelers", and "Whispers" is canon.)
But somewhere, for me, it crossed the line from sappy to squirm-inducing, and I think it was near the very end of the airplane scene. Someone once mentioned to me that reading the Twilight books felt like reading someone's sexual fantasies -- and that's how the end of that scene felt to me. I'm afraid (really afraid) that I'm going to have to watch it again, because now I'm morbidly curious if it was the suggestion of sex so soon that bothered me, or the way they suggested it that bothered me.
(It was the Mile High Club part that really tipped me over into rant mode. I did enjoy most of the episode, even if I haven't really squeed about it yet.)